Can California Seniors Get Medicare and Medi-Cal at the Same Time? (2024)

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The short answer to whether some seniors may qualify for both Medicare and Medi-Cal (California’s Medicaid program) is: yes. Although some people under age 65 qualify for Medicare, such as individuals with end-stage renal disease (ESRD), our focus in this post is on seniors age 65 and older. This post will explore in more detail who may qualify for both programs—referred to as “dual eligible.”

Can California Seniors Get Medicare and Medi-Cal at the Same Time? (1)

For an overview of Medicare, read our article, How Does Medicare Work? Now let’s take a look at the Medi-Cal program.

What Is Medi-Cal and Who Qualifies?

Medi-Cal is California’s Medicaid program, helping to cover the cost of medical expenses for low-income individuals/families. There are several Medi-Cal programs for Californians who qualify, including:

  1. Social Security Income (SSI) Program –– Those who qualify for SSI automatically qualify for full Medi-Cal coverage. To qualify for SSI, a person must be age 65 or older, blind or disabled, and their income must not exceed $877.40 for an individual or $1,478 for a couple (although higher levels apply for individuals who are blind).
  1. Aged & Disabled Federal Poverty Level (A&D FPL) Program –– Those who are 65 or older or disabled and who are not eligible for the SSI program may qualify for Medi-Cal through the A&D FPL program. To qualify for this program, a person must have less than $1,203 in countable monthly income for an individual, or $1,621 for a couple. Qualifying individuals/couples must not have assets in excess of certain thresholds—the program does not count all assets, so it’s important to learn which assets count and which do not.
  1. Medi-Cal with a Share of Cost (SOC) –– Individuals who meet the asset level requirements, but whose incomes are too high to qualify for SSI or the A&D FPL programs, may still qualify for Medi-Cal if they pay a share of the cost (similar to a deductible), after which Medi-Cal pays the remaining expenses.
  1. 250% California Working Disabled (CWD) Program –– This programs helps people who are disabled but working, and whose incomes are too high to qualify for free Medi-Cal. Those who qualify pay a monthly premium based on their income and must earn less than 250% of the federal poverty level (FPL).

How Do Medi-Cal and Medicare Work Together?

For services that both Medicare and Medi-Cal cover (such as doctor’s visits, lab tests, and hospital care) Medicare pays first, and Medi-Cal pays second.

Medi-Cal will pick up some costs not covered by Medicare, such as copayments and coinsurance amounts. Here are some additional points about how Medi-Cal and Medicare work together:

  • Medicare pays first for your healthcare.
  • Medicare pays for your doctor, hospital, and other medical bills, as well as your prescription drugs. If you have Medi-Cal, you must enroll in a Medicare Part D drug plan.
  • Medi-Cal will pay your Medicare Part B premium if you have full Medi-Cal or a Medi-Cal share of cost (SOC) of less than $500.
  • Medi-Cal pays for your Medicare copayments and deductibles.
  • Medi-Cal pays for your prescription drugs that aren’t covered by your Part D drug plan.
  • Medi-Cal pays for your long-term care and care in a nursing home.
  • If you’re in a Medicare Advantage plan, you must get all of your medical care from in-network doctors and other medical providers.

Get Expert Help

This has been a basic overview of how Medi-Cal and Medicare work together. Call the experts at CA Medicare to find out for which programs you qualify and for help with Medicare enrollment.

Sources:

  1. http://www.cahealthadvocates.org/low-income/medi-cal.html
  2. https://www.nlacrc.org/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=682
Can California Seniors Get Medicare and Medi-Cal at the Same Time? (2024)

FAQs

Can California Seniors Get Medicare and Medi-Cal at the Same Time? ›

Some people qualify for both Medicare and Medi-Cal and are “dual eligible” or Medi Medi beneficiaries. When an individual has both Medicare Parts A and B, Medicare is the primary insurance and pays for most medical care.

Can you have both Medicare and Medi-Cal in California? ›

Enrollment in a Medi-Cal managed care plan does not impact Medicare benefits or provider access. Medi-Medi Plans​​ coordinate all benefits and services across b​oth programs, including all Medicare and Medi-Cal covered services​.

Does everyone over 65 qualify for Medi-Cal in California? ›

If you are aged (65+) or disabled and are not eligible for the SSI program, you may be able to get Medi-Cal through the Aged & Disabled Federal Poverty Level (A&D FPL) program. To qualify, you must: Be aged (65+) or disabled (meet Social Security's definition of disability, even if your disability is blindness).

Does Medi-Cal pay Medicare premiums? ›

The Medicare Premium Payment Program, or Medicare Buy-In, allows Medi-Cal to pay Medicare Part A and/or Part B premiums for Medi-Cal beneficiaries and others who qualify for Medi-Cal under special programs, allowing Medi-Cal to defer medical costs to Medicare where appropriate.

What is the main difference in eligibility criteria between Medicare and Medi-Cal? ›

Medicare - In order to be eligible for Medicare, you need to be 65 years or older. Younger people can qualify for Medicare if they have specific disabilities such as ALS or end stage renal disease. Medi-Cal - You may be eligible for comprehensive health services through Medi-Cal if you meet the low-income threshold.

Can you get Medi-Cal and Medicare at the same time? ›

Some people qualify for both Medicare and Medi-Cal and are “dual eligible” or Medi Medi beneficiaries. When an individual has both Medicare Parts A and B, Medicare is the primary insurance and pays for most medical care.

Can I get Medi-Cal if I have Medicare? ›

Yes. Medi-Cal will work with your Medicare coverage. You could reduce your Medicare monthly premium to zero and eliminate most out-of-pocket costs.

What disqualifies you from Medi-Cal in California? ›

The Medi-Cal program determines eligibility for benefits on a “means” tested basis. If a Medi-Cal applicant's property/assets are over the Medi-Cal property limit, the applicant will not be eligible for Medi-Cal unless they lower their property/assets according to the program rules.

How much money can you have in the bank and still qualify for Medi-Cal? ›

asset information? eligibility for Medi-Cal. For new Medi-Cal applications only, current asset limits are $130,000 for one person and $65,000 for each additional household member, up to 10. Starting on January 1, 2024, Medi-Cal applications will no longer ask for asset information.

What is the maximum monthly income to qualify for Medi-Cal in California? ›

Most single individuals will qualify for Medi-Cal if there income is under $1,676 per month. Most couples will qualify if their income is under $2,267 per month. If you have disabilities, your income can be slightly higher. You can qualify for Medi-Cal even if you have assets.

Do I need Medicare Part D if I have Medi-Cal? ›

Dual eligible clients are those clients who have Medi-Cal and Medicare. It is mandatory for dual eligible/Medi-Medi clients to be enrolled with Medicare Part D.

Does Social Security count as income for Medi-Cal? ›

Income-based Medi-Cal counts most types of earned and unearned income you have. However, some income is not counted, including Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits and some contributions to retirement accounts.

How much is Medi-Cal per month? ›

For many individuals who enroll in Medi-Cal, there is no premium, no co-payment, and no out of pocket cost. Effective July 1, 2022, all monthly premiums were reduced to $0.00.​ In general, individuals in Medi-Cal will get the same health benefits available through Covered California at a lower cost.

What is the best health insurance for seniors in California? ›

Best overall: Medicare

Medicare is the best health insurance option for seniors and retirees. Medicare is the cheapest health insurance with the best benefits for people age 65 and older or who have a qualifying disability. You can choose between two different options: Original Medicare and Medicare Advantage.

Is Medicare free at age 65 for seniors? ›

People age 65 or older, who are citizens or permanent residents of the United States, are eligible for Medicare Part A. You're eligible for Part A at no cost at age 65 if 1 of the following applies: You receive or are eligible to receive benefits from Social Security or the Railroad Retirement Board (RRB).

Does Medi-Cal check bank accounts? ›

Applications will not ask for asset information starting on January 1, 2024. Medi-Cal will consider income information but will not consider assets.

Does Social Security count as income for Medi-Cal California? ›

Income-based Medi-Cal counts most types of earned and unearned income you have. However, some income is not counted, including Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits and some contributions to retirement accounts.

How much money can you have and still get Medi-Cal in California? ›

If you apply for Medi-Cal in 2023:

Medi-Cal will consider assets and income information as part of the application process. The current asset limit is $130,000 for one person. Each additional household member adds $65,000 to the asset limit. Up to 10 members can be in a household.

How much can you earn and still qualify for Medi-Cal in California? ›

The size of your household affects the maximum income you can earn to qualify. For example, if you lived on your own in 2022, earning $18,755 annually would put you at 138% of the FPL. This number changes for a family of five, making you ineligible if you earned more than $44,809 that year.

Can I have more than one health insurance in California? ›

The short answer to that question is yes, you can have two health insurance plans. In fact, it's becoming increasingly common for individuals to have more than one health insurance plan.

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